Vic Da Looper On the Making Of ‘Cat Sounds’
Can you share any interesting or unique musical elements or production techniques used in ‘Cat Sounds?’
Well, I usually mix music based on the overall song as a journey. Some have a very standard and uniform technique. I see it more like an art form, so every song is mixed differently based on the strengths of the song. For me, the song is greater than the mix and that’s how I mixed this album
What was the initial spark or idea that led to the creation of ‘Cat Sounds?’
A cat that showed up to my house and ended up moving in. Never saw myself as a cat person till I got to know that Feline. This got me obsessed with Instagram videos and the human-like sounds that cats make. So I made a song revolving around the sound of a cat. Then it became 3 songs and then a full album. That’s when my third album's theme became Cat Sounds and the humanization of Cats. I was really inspired.
What do you like the best about this track?
I like the fact that it almost wrote itself since I revolved everything around the Strange Cat noise. It was the center of everything so ideas easily flowed through. Each part was written in relation to that specific cat sound.
Can you tell us a bit about yourself and how you got started in music?
Well, I was conceived to music and then I was born with a passion for it. My mom said when I was a baby that the only thing that made me stop crying was weird sounds like the ones that came through our vacuum cleaner. As a teen, I picked up the guitar and never stopped since. Now, since then till now, I’ve lived in the middle of writing a song. It’s like constant riddles that I have to solve. Once I solve it, I'm happy and then repeat the process.
How do you approach creating something new and different?
Wow, I can’t do it any other way. Even when I do something that i think is super normal people tell me it’s actually weird and different. My problem is creating something that’s normal. That is actually my challenge.
Bluhm On the Making Of “I’m Not Okay”
What was the creative process like for this particular single "I’m Not Okay?”
Creatively, this song was born from a few chords strummed on a guitar by John that I (Claire) just couldn't get out of my head. We sat down together and I started singing and the words just poured out of me. We had most of the song written in under an hour and then John got to work producing the track while I focused on perfecting the vocals. It really came together quickly and I think we knew we had something that felt special to us right away.
Could you discuss the lyrical themes or messages conveyed in this release?
The song is about obsession in relationships and how strong feelings and emotions can take a toll on your mental health when the only thing we are focused on is love or losing love. I think sometimes we can completely lose track of ourselves and who we really are when we are in these kind of obsessive moments and this song is a representation of that emotion and those raw feelings.
How has the audience response been to this song during live shows?
This song is so new that we haven't yet had a chance to play it live but we are really excited to share this one with our fans. I'm really looking forward to getting into these emotions and performing this song and all the others off our upcoming album. We've been totally focused on completing our debut album so we haven't had much time to play shows lately.
Are there any upcoming projects or releases that you are particularly excited about?
We are releasing the music video for this track in the next 2 weeks and we'll be releasing our debut album at the end of August. We're also really looking forward to playing the Kalamashoegazer festival on October 14th in Kalamazoo. Michigan.
What inspired you to pursue a career in music?
John Marion’s love for music began at an early age, and he has been focused on music and improving his craft for most of his life. He grew up listening to an eclectic mix of artists including Cat Stevens, Elliot Smith, Pavement, but it was the music of John Lennon and the Beatles that influenced him more than anything else. The Beatle's innovative approach to music and their ability to connect with listeners on a deep level inspired John to pursue a career in music. He spent several years traveling and performing in a variety of venues, writing and producing music with several other projects, before finally meeting his musical and life partner, Claire.
Claire, on the other hand, honed her songwriting skills while she was also professionally studying marriage and relationship therapy. She spent several years performing songs she wrote at local open mics before meeting John at an open mic in 2021. Upon meeting, the two were instantly fans of one another and knew they had to start working on a musical project together. Her unique vocal style is characterized by a dreamy quality that perfectly complements the band's lush, atmospheric soundscapes. She has been compared to artists like Dolores O'Riordan, Mazzy Star, and Victoria Legrand.
Bad Indigo “DIY”
Beginning with a simple idea, “DIY” grows overnight into a sonic tree with layers of captivating storytellings, each pulling your heart string. Nostalgic, dream-like, expansive, innocent. In its intoxicating groove, Bad Indigo slow brews a vibe, in which the safe feeling of home meets the desire to explore and the fear of being lost. The genre-fluid “DIY” marks a new beginning for Bad Indigo. At heart, its indie, slight psychedelic daze sees the organic blend of electric, acoustic instruments with electronics. A hint of mystic and exoticism intrigues you to trace its footsteps. The track sees several strings of emotive storylines piece together into an immersive experience, while each layer is to be savored fully.
“DIY” floats in its own world. There’s a sense of solitude and fantastics in the sonics and melodies, but is interconnected to our experiences. At core, it tackles emotions that are universally relatable. “DIY” is a track that connects us together, through everything that makes us human. The track feels like a preservation of something pure and beautiful. The tender inquires of the feeling of lost meets nostalgia and the safety of a home and harbor. If there’s one thing that this track tell us, is that the Tel Aviv-based band is a band who has extraordinary melodic instincts and unique charm.
There’s a collective energy of something larger at play in their music. Bad Indigo never fails to elevate their music to a spiritual level. The listening experience feels like a journey and a meditation, where one can’t walk out of without feeling something.
Check out our interview below where the band talk about their creative process and “DIY.”
Punk Head: I love how original and passionate “DIY" is. What's the story behind this song?
Tsvika: I just remember playing with this simple guitar riff and singing DIY….DIY, and started flowing from there. I really enjoyed the melody, that led to the lyrics , an abstract story about the meaning of home.
Nir: We all have an idea of what home is for us, but a lot of times reality really questions that. Tsvika played this song to me while we were working or stuck on other material, not knowing that it would really open up a new tone for us. While refining it we discovered more songs, more worlds.
PH: What did you enjoy most about making this “DIY"?
Tsvika: It's kind of the first kid of the album, our first song we felt were going somewhere interesting creatively. For good and bad there are no defined rules in the world of Bad Indigo, it can go everywhere music wise , and that’s how we like it.
Nir: For me making “DIY” always had an easy vibe to it. A lot of tracks feel like simple fun in the beginning of the process, but this one managed to feel light the whole way.
PH: What motivates you as an artist?
Tsvika: Well, I always have a passion to write songs and I hope this feeling will never end. It's my bridge to this world, from my inside into this reality, whatever it is:)
Nir: For me, the same, it’s what gets me out of myself. I really like engaging and working with other people. It’s what makes music interesting.
PH: How did you first come together?
Nir: We played in different bands in the Tel Aviv music scene, and when we finally played together it felt right, we have fun recording and playing and we both love yoga, hummus and badminton.
PH: What would you like to say to your fans out there?
Tsvika: I don't know if we have fans, but if you're out there , we love you!!
Marble Raft “Geography A”
Marble Raft paints a sonic wonderland with bright, glistening sounds that filled the space with brilliant and glimmering visions.
Marble Raft Release Euphoria Album Geography A
Photo credit: Boel BermannMarble Raft paints a sonic wonderland with bright, glistening sounds that filled the space with brilliant and glimmering visions. There’s an overall optimism in Marble Raft’s music that gives their sound a unique sunshine glow. Like a voyage heading into the undiscovered sea and islands, Geography A features nine various songs that take you on different adventures.
“Masses of Water” opens the album with rich and vibrant psychedelic soundscapes that swirls in the fluid-like orchestration. Marble Raft utilizes a combination of warm, celestial sounds to depict a musical world that is just as magical as a candy house, making the impossible come true, while the duo’s voices join together, calls and responses, sharing this vision in song form.
Marble Raft’s lyrics are the ones to pay extra attention to. The lines act as the guidelines to the sound that fulfill the imageries with specifics and deeper meanings. There’s always a certain feel that comes from the lyrics themself that contribute to this euphoria vision.
As it wrote in “Masses of Water”: “It all begins right here with these masses of water; an engine of hopes and dismay; here we stand with our maps and our numbers; but no logic applies here; we’ll be safe and sound.”
“Guiding Stars” offers a lighthearted tenderness with a speck of hope, sailing onto the colorful sea. The flamboyant soundscape to this point is quite characteristic to Marble Raft’s sound. “Scouting the Shores of Longyear” marks a major shift of energy in the album.
It presents an immediate, derivative of vibe that feels fresh and at the same time intense, introducing a sense of movement and longing into the song with richer emotional context.
“Isle of the Tritons” turns to the tender side, featuring a sensuous guitar-centered texture that reminds you of the first rain of spring. It opens up the possibilities of cinematic aspects of Marble Raft’s music, which is something exciting to explore more.
“Northern to Southern Hemisphere” has a sense of magic and playfulness nicely tucked into the sonic. The percussion-infused bright, metal palette creates a very textural feel to the sonics. “Tierra del Fuego” looks out for a change in the darker and heavier, industrial-electronic elements that tangled with pop.
It’s a track that flies in the middle of everything yet different from anything. “Coast to Coast” concludes the album with a heavier, sunset-inspired reverb with an overwhelmingly emotional richness. It evokes a sense of nostalgia but in no way associates to specific memories. It’s a feeling that you can only feel but can’t see or touch, which makes the song stand out in Geography A.
SINGLE REVIEW: CLAUDIA FENOGLIO “19 AGAIN”
Staff Pick
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Inspired by the coming-of-age music and artists, “19 Again” has a weary, laid-back mood, exploring a vulnerable, youthful feeling. At the edge of a change in narrative, when you consciously make the choice that no longer resonates with the past or others, the theme of leaving something behind yet being completely alone facing the new challenges can be overwhelming.
“19 Again” exposes the nerves and the pulsing veins to their most vulnerable and captured the beautiful, poetic moment of becoming. Earthy guitar and intimate vocal; vague and smooth backing vocal feels like it’s there but it’s not. Its rich, balanced vibe brings you into a lazy afternoon of a live performance in the drowsy ears, circling in the dreamful, ethereal soundscape.
Claudia Fenoglio dives a little deeper into Deja Vu and memory in “19 Again.” The vivid, visual component in its lyricism immediately triggers our memories of other senses, interacting with touch, smell, feel through the little, specific details.
The fear of going through something traumatic and overwhelming again is a powerful thing. It almost puts you right back into a pastime where the hurt and loneliness are still soft and vulnerable.
Written by Katrina Yang
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SINGLE REVIEW: THE INFINITE DAISY CHAINS “HOPE YOU GROW”
Discovery
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“A flicker of hope is what I see, in your eyes, there’s so much to believe; all the while, this love is on trial.” Lyrics of “Hope You Grow”
A semi-transparent, lush soundscape illuminates the gentle light of hope and love. Revolving around love/hate in relationships, the subtle texture is inspired by the gentle energy and spirited connection that intertwined two souls. The swishing synth meets an ethereal vocal, bass-driven drum machine gives it the perfect push for the perfect indie dream-pop sonics.
The Infinite Daisy Chains creates something that is stunningly wonderful to the ears. Crafty, laid-back, and gentle, “Hope You Grow” conveys their passion for music, their love for each other, and their intention for hope into song form.
From meeting at a rehearsal in a dimly lit garage to tying the knot five years later in marriage, The Infinite Daisy Chains project by the duo Ian Dandridge and Kristina Westernik-Dandridge took shape from an inspiration from their honeymoon experience in the California desert.
“Hope You Grow” is a release from their upcoming EP Between You And Me. With an ever-changing color palette always stayed inspired by a collection of experiences and details, the duo combines electronic as well as acoustic instruments weaving into their ideal sound.
Written by Katrina Yang
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EP REVIEW: THE GOLD SUPPLY “UNDERWATER COMPLETELY”
Staff Pick
Cover Image: Underwater Completely
Formed and twisted during a time of crisis, The Gold Supply is a new female-front band by former major label artists. Characterized by cold, dark tunes, they aim to reflect the new world of turmoil. Grunge, dream pop, and art rock splash into their own bizarre vocabulary with deeply haunting riffs, chilly pianos, and captivating vocals in the warm ruins. Evocative and unforgettable.
Raw with no pretense. They depict the world exactly the way they feel with no false hope or sugary decors. There’s a sense of disappointment and pain from a sensitive, emotive perspective in Underwater Completely. They remind you of Kurt Cobain’s aesthetics. Raw and extreme, but deep-rooted in human experience, which makes the tunes so relatable and touching. The Gold Supply gets under your skin easily, evoking feelings and memories you thought you already forgot.
Through their highly developed senses and perceptions, The Gold Supply dives into the details and soft spots of everyday life, creating something artistically delicate and relatable on a human level. Underwater Completely is filled with those tender, wrenching electric guitar screams and lo-fi vocals dancing in a distance. There’s a constant ring in each song that sounded so strange yet familiar.
Sonically, they create something you could listen to on repeat. Underwater Completely touches on feelings in a multi-dimensional way with so much lingering in the air. It invites you to dive deep into life and your own feelings in a cold, dark night of realization.
Written by Katrina Yang
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SINGLE REVIEW: DAVID BARON AND FIONA GLENN “Crossover”
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Photo courtesy of Fiona Glenn
In a peaceful, illuminating dreamscape, “Crossover” brings you to the reverberant vibe of slow dance on a rooftop and driving past the natural landscape, liberating and full of love. Stemming from the Beat generation and hippie counterculture of the 60s, the theme of city folks escaping the city, searching for something more in life, is always an adventure of love and freedom. Time may have changed, the language of music may have been renewed a couple of times, but the searching continues.
“Crossover” evokes a nostalgic feeling at the same time moving forward in the history of sound. Reintroducing retro elements into the modern soundscape, blending raw experiences with mastery and perfection, David Baron has found the crossover in contrasts, channeling a unique color and vibration into his music. Fiano Glenn’s dreamful, stunning voice added the magic touch that brought Baron’s vision to life.a
Previously worked with The Lumineers, Lana Del Ray, Vance Joy, and Meghan Trainor, among others, David Baron is a record producer, film composer, arrange, and engineer located in Woodstock, NY. He first met Glenn at the Hoot Festival when the nine-year-old singer amazed him with her vocal performance.
“She had a magical sound,” Baron commented. The now 16-year-old singer has continued her musical career with various collaborations, including being the lead singer for Baron’s Whisperer album.
Written by Katrina Yang
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LP REVIEW: AARON RIZZO ‘Mirror Talk Blue’
Album of the Week
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“Deference” introduces the LP with an emotive, stunning naturescape, evoking profound feelings in its beautiful, string-infused sonic texture. Cinematic grand gesture and intricate production in combination with a dream pop, singer-songwriter oriented songwriting invites its listener to an exploration beyond the traditional definition of a rock band.
Mirror Talks Blue goes into a change of narrative in its storytelling. From an introductory soundtrack, Aaron Rizzo dives straight into a captivating, punchy dreamscape. Persistent, minimalistic drumbeat paired with emotive electric texture,“Gone Mad” is anthemic and captivating.
Trimming his Strat, Aaron Rizzo further explores and channels the soul out of electric guitar. “Home Weeps” introduces us to a vast, starry skyscape with clouds floating above. Fuzzy bass drives a subwoofer rhythm deep underneath, shaking the ground while the sonics vibrate through your bones. Pop infused catchiness is reintroduced.
“To Witness Love” and “To Witness A Death” are two sides of one coin. “To Witness Love” narrates around a distinct, lo-fi, blurry sonics, fusing intimate lyricism. The sound of water dripping echoes between the sound walls, diving into an unexpected stage of pop vocabulary. “To Witness A Death” remains the vulnerability, starting with a light staccato of tenderness and ceremonial seriousness evolving into a messy, reverberant background that lives and breathes with the vocal line. There’s a sense of suffocation in its sadness as it sinks to the bottom of the ocean.
“Someone to Love Me” surprises us with a spanish guitar inspired colorism, spinning into an eerie, immersive floral immersion. “Epiphany” concludes the album with another beautiful, airy expansion of instrumentals, emerging from the string of a voice to flashbacks and surreality.
Written by Katrina Yang
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MV PREMIERE: PAOLA BENNET “MY MOTHER SAYS”
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Paola Bennet’s keen observation of the rising mental health among the younger generation and the common misconception of depression has brought us the highly relatable single “My Mother Says” as the second release from her upcoming album Maybe the Light. Through intimate, honest storytelling, “My Mother Says” sheds light on the frustration and pain one suffers from mental health. Narrative spirals from memories and conversations to the confession of frustration.
“And my mother says, ‘being sad sometimes is alright. At your age, God knows, so was I.’ How do I tell her it’s a constant haze, it’s always; it’s the sky falling, breaking over me all the time. Breaking me all the time.”
Alternates between quiescent, ethereal storytelling and energized, reverberant, distorted confession, the contrast of its color palettes, harmonious texture, and soundscape create a fascinating effect that makes the song addictive and irresistible.
“I want to hit the walls until they break, someone to say to me I’m no mistake; I want an inch of kindness, but I know that if I want to find it, I’ll have to bare my throat. And how can I, how can I?” Voicing frustration is just as powerful and cathartic. Sometimes we just needed to be heard and acknowledged.
The music video directed by Marielle Boland was created in the memory of Boland’s mother, featuring items that filled with memories: grapefruit, the ocean, painting to music, and a vintage piano owned by the previous generation of the family. “I lost both my parents this past year, and this song made me feel a connection to my mom again,” said Boland. Inspired by the music video “Les Filles Desir,” the lo-fi, nostalgic aesthetic was a wonderful, unexpected extension to the sonic experience of “My Mothers Say” as it echoes the experience Paola Bennet created with sampled sounds from old childhood footage.
Written by Katrina Yang
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ALBUM REVIEW: M.A.G.S ‘SAY THINGS THAT MATTER’
Album of the Week
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Say Things That Matter instantly fills up the space with its vibrant, adventurous shoegazing sonic bath. Characterized by bizarre, stimulated sonic adventures and straightforward lyricism, the resounding reverberant waves continue stretching those lazy, infectious tentacles to the furthest, reaching to anyone who hasn’t heard the magic word, M.A.G.S.
Located in Los Angeles, California, M.A.G.S is a rising artist/producer with great versatility and rich musical vocabulary. Electric guitars may only have six strings, but they become chatty and radiant full of creative new phrases and endless possibilities in M.A.G.S's hands. Like a chameleon that constantly adapts to the surroundings, no matter how bizarre the colors. M.A.G.S continues to surprise you within the three short minutes of each song and the distinctly characteristic 14 tracks on Say Things That Matter.
The magic treasure chest opens its mouth and swallows you into a psychedelic adventure of a charming, kooky world in the warm lo-fi crackles. Flashbacks and shattered pieces of sound add to its sonic collection. No matter how far it has gone, the nostalgic past will always follow you—something to hold on to when you’re losing control.
M.A.G.S music remains a mercurial nature throughout the ebbs and flows of the album. An energetic delight followed by a swirling lo-fi “intro.” Hypnotic, bouncy sound wall splits the time and space into playful little pieces, regrouping into various colors. It escalates into a massive, fast-paced “Waits,” leading you into a fiery, manic world of electric guitar. After a chaotic, exotic encounter, the album temporary rest on a soft, melancholy world of feelings,
Leading by a bendy, bluesy guitar riff earworm, “Sunrise” concludes the album with a revived new beginning with a sense of awe and wonder. There’s no guarantee of where M.A.G.S will take us in the next adventure, but one thing we know for sure is that it would be a place where no man has been before.
Written by Katrina Yang
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PREMIERE: LETTING UP DESPITE GREAT FAULTS “GEMINI”
New Music Friday
In a fuzzy noise, an ethereal voice blossoms in its purest and most beautiful form. Deep-rooted in chaos, Letting Up Despite Great Faults brings us a different dream pop experience. “Gemini” is an open discussion about eternity.
Like the way perfection emerges from imperfection, we witness great love and deep friendship falling apart. Revolving around those thoughts that come to you in between the enormous feelings, “Gemini” thrives for hope.
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Depicting the noisy, anxious world we live in, the track is driven by an upbeat, hopeful guitar soundscape, pumping blood supply to the rest of our body like a beating heart. The voice in the middle of its surroundings remains calm and uninterrupted. Maybe nothing is perfect, and maybe even the strongest connection would part their ways one day, but maybe it doesn’t matter at all.
Letting Up Despite Great Faults was founded by Mike Lee in the city of Angel. After meeting Kent Zambrana (bass), they decided to move to Austin, TX, where they found Daniel Schmidt (drums) and Annah Fisette (guitar, keys, vocals). Diving deep into a hip, dreamful, ethereal music world, they are bringing more songs into the world. With “Gemini” being the debut release, a new album is on the horizon.
PREMIERE: UNDERWATERSUN “TEARS FOR SOUVENIRS”
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Lo-fi crackles and frizzles take you to a different time and space; traveling through the low-resolution old footage, “Tears for Souvenirs” is a letter of hope to the teenage self. Like a cloud hug on a summer afternoon, Underwatersun created a warm, reminiscent feel.
The song starts with an intentionally out-of-tune effect. Like the way wind slightly distorts scenery, everything becomes surreal in the distance. This unique soundscape immediately grasps your attention. Underwatersun’s light vocal floats alongside the mellow guitar strums.
Suddenly you begin to remember: the smell of summer breeze; the insecurity of a younger self. The ethereal, harmonious chorus brings you closer to the vague. Like a dream, you don’t want to wake up from, “Tears for Souvenirs” has something beautiful and pure in its sweet, velvety texture. It brings a smile to your face, even you know that nothing is perfect.
Located in the UK, Underwatersun is the sole DIY dream-pop project of emerging singer-songwriter and producer Harry Aiden Sampson. Inspired by Rex Orange County and Dayglow, the artist is bringing perspective to the scene.
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SINGLE REVIEW: FINCH FAUX “SO LET IT BEGIN”
Finch Faux “So Let it Begin” is a collaboration with her former self as well as the oldest song and the debut release from her upcoming LP Flounderbound.
Finch Faux “So Let it Begin” is a collaboration with her former self as well as the oldest song and the debut release from her upcoming LP Flounderbound. Written about ten years ago on an afternoon against her camper van wheel, the song is about the old lost and found.
Obscure and resounding in a slightly chaotic manner, “So Let it Begin” steps into the gap between the past and the present, where the miniature time is still. A winding synth reminds you of the echoes of water drops from a cave.
Faux’s voice comes from a distance, a location beyond visible to your sight. It fascinates you and intrigues you to walk into the tunnel. Her voice soon blurs into the immersive soundscape, becoming semi-indistinguishable.
It's hard to imagine what the song would sound like ten years ago, but the rendition has a special flavor from a different time. Something nostalgic and moving from the last decades. In a quiet space, “So Let it Begin” gently touches your soul.
PREMIERE: ADDEZINE “STAIRS”
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Absorbing influences from a wide range of music genres and styles, “Stairs” stands on its own, on edge, and in between. Exploring the feelings of an intense crush, the track by the UK-based artist, producer, Addezine is impressionistic and evocative.
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Stunning, laid-back, and surreal, “Stair” swirls in its orange aura. Visible and invisible in the fog, the beauty of obscure revolves around its surreal landscape. A twanging motif behind Addezine’s whispery, ethereal voice brings a hypnotic, narcotic factor to the track. “Stair’ tunes into the longing of romance.
“Flashing lights bounce off your eyes, first face in the crowd when I walked in. Every room is full of life; when the walls are closing in, to the bottom of my glass I go, I couldn’t hold the weight of it.”
Poetic, romantic lyrics with raw, authentic expression. As if the instruments know his heart, they resonate in harmony with the chorus as Addezine dives into the heartache that comes with longing.
“I can’t tell you what I’m feeling.”
PREMIERE: THE BRAMBLES ‘CALIFORNIA’
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Like last century’s classic film that left a mark on your heart, or the one kiss that forever lingers, “California” by the Manchester-based retro-pop band The Brambles shares a similar cinematic, nostalgic, stirring effect, adding to their collection with another elusive piece of art, the band has again rocked our world with their lavish, intricate soundscape.
Soft whispers and rhymes fluctuate in the brisk, wind-blowing drone, disappearing in the subtle, evocative, airy soundscape in motion, submerging into a surreal, ocean-like world. The bouncy synth leads the wandering thoughts. Like traveling across the ocean, gazing afar the horizon with uncertainty as the sun goes down, or looking into the abyss, seeing your own reflection, a fictional world evolves in a droning escalation with a touch of sensitivity.
“You’ll never know what you want unless it’s given to you in a shiny box. With lights and sounds and pretty girls and boys that sing their songs. “
“And with their words, create flaccid tales of escapades. (and the father that you never had).”
There’s a delicate balance between the known and the unknown. The Brambles gives you just enough hint for the wild imagination without ruining the mystery. On the flip side, “Casting Couch” is an electric track paying homage to artists that influenced their sampling style.
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